From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1116ece181be1aea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-02 07:06:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Writing on the Wall for Ada? Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:15:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1064527575.648809@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F739C1D.4030907@attbi.com> <3F78E850.8010401@comcast.net> <3F79751F.3000709@noplace.com> <0k2jnvc2hh1ovrj6v6qqa5jh8ddotduj79@4ax.com> <3F7AC9C9.6090903@noplace.com> <92lnnvsvcat8eig0aj47cl01cn4ttqjhr2@4ax.com> <3F7C1D2B.5000503@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.111) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1065103576 10313779 212.79.194.111 (16 [77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:119 Date: 2003-10-02T16:15:15+02:00 List-Id: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:42:33 GMT, Marin David Condic wrote: >I understand. But I think it would be really hard to avoid this without >breaking the language. If you tried to do something to make all that >stuff subtypes of something so you could have "compatibility" and no >proliferation of package specs, my guess would be that you wouldn't be >able to pass millions of lines of existing Ada through the new compiler >and have it work. You just can't do that to your user base. Better to >start a whole new language. AFAIK, so far no irreparable damage was made. So in my view it is pretty possible to add for *all* types: - classes (tags are embedded for tagged types only); - interface inheritance which includes interfaces of *all* predefined types such as scalar types, arrays, record types; - discriminants; And to do it in a way 99% compatible to the existing standard. This would allow to drastically reduce the size of the standard libraries. --- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de