From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,f3bebae566a54cab X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Nasser M. Abbasi" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Some exciting new trends in concurrency and software design Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:48:13 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <8a5765ba-622a-42cd-9886-28ed7cfed31e@s17g2000yqs.googlegroups.com> <4dff5be5$0$6565$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <20110622103916.20c277af@C-01b> Reply-To: nma@12000.org NNTP-Posting-Host: TUXTYYqX1yG7hs3zxUg7ng.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20008 Date: 2011-06-22T19:48:13-07:00 List-Id: On 6/22/2011 1:39 AM, Oliver Kleinke wrote: > > Talking to my class mates at university (mostly first to fourth term > students, most of them had had no programming experience) I rather get > the impression that OOP involves abstract constructs that are not > 'compact' for a beginner. FP wouldn't do any better. IMO the > best approach would be to first begin with simple structured > programming and then go on with programming by extension, > modularization, etc. From my limited experience I tell Java, C/C++ and > the like are not a good choice for an introductory programming > language and are meant to fail. But all that is nothing really new.. > (There were some papers on that topic ~15 years ago I think.) I am happy that my first language at school was Pascal, and my programming books bibles for years were "Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs" by Wirth. Data Structures and Algorithms by Aho and Ullman Fundamentals of data structures in Pascal by Horowitz and Sahni Those were the good old days :) --Nasser