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> and then "C".  Even "C" didn't start off in any
> kind of stable form.  There were many early changes

Now the definition is fairly stable, but the language
still is not.  :-)

> themselves!  If you are doing something complex enough
> like writing a compiler in a language you are designing, you
> will of course end up making the language usable.

What does that say about Ada 95, which had it's first
compiler written in Ada 83 and it's second in Ada 95 ?

Or COBOL (which had what some say is its best compiler
written in COBOL)?

> Giving people a set of requirements and saying
> "now go design a perfect language" is the
> opposite of how such things evolve naturally.

Maybe that's why the natural state of software
is so pitiful.