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From: "Manfred Kremer" <0845330659-0001@t-online.de>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: What's stopping you from using Ada for your next commercial
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:12:19 +0100
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Date: 2011-03-11T09:12:19+01:00
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Wonder what happened to the Ada Compiler Validation Suite.
Was this abandoned or is it still maintained to reflect recent changes to 
the ARM?
For several years I had the impression that the Validation Suite is 
something that distinuishes Ada from other programming languages and could 
be a reason to use validated Ada compilers.

    Manfred

"Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:ilber1$hcc$1@munin.nbi.dk...
> "Thomas L�cke" <tl@ada-dk.org> wrote in message 
> news:4d78c3c6$0$23757$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>> On 2011-03-10 12:12, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>> Ada 2005 was not that big step forward.
>>
>> That makes it even more odd/annoying that 6 years down the line, someone
>> like Maciej still can't use plain Ada 2005 features without running into
>> compiler issues/errors.
>
> Interfaces are a particularly difficult feature to get even close to 
> right. I'd expect to be finding bugs in those essentially forever (just as 
> happens with finalization). Indeed, these are hard enough to implement 
> that there are no plans to implement them in Janus/Ada in the forseeable 
> future (modulo a customer with $$$, of course). There are a lot of other 
> things that Janus/Ada needs that will take an order of magnitude less 
> development time (and thus are much better choices for development 
> effort).
>
> This is a problem with MI in general, not just with Ada. Bugs are still 
> turning up in C++ compilers, and they have more than a decade's head start 
> on GNAT...
>
>                                     Randy.
>
>