From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f15b862e11b575a4 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Air traffic control system in Java Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:08:28 -0600 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <4d6ffe16$0$17930$a8266bb1@postbox2.readnews.com> <835e91b1-50f7-4b20-beaf-5b5afcc66cc5@r4g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <4d701d79$0$17918$a8266bb1@postbox2.readnews.com> <4d711c62$0$27719$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <4d712326$0$27719$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <4d712b6a$0$17204$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <0b3daa32-8571-4a7f-a96f-cd876f4c4127@d12g2000prj.googlegroups.com> <4d712e64$0$17204$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <1l023eg1ilrni.xwge3tgrabol$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1299287321 5781 69.95.181.76 (5 Mar 2011 01:08:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 01:08:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!feed.ac-versailles.fr!news.ecp.fr!news.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17859 Date: 2011-03-04T19:08:28-06:00 List-Id: "Nasser M. Abbasi" wrote in message news:ikrmfp$bsq$1@speranza.aioe.org... ... > on the GUI part, I think making good easy to use GUI is a skill > few has, and it is very important and will always be, more so > in the future, because more and more people will want to use computers, > and making the interfaces easier, will be even more important > with time. That is why ipad and its relatives are success. > > Ada having no build-in GUI in it, like with Java for example, > is hurting it, not helping it. If Ada had had a built-in GUI, it surely wouldn't have been designed for IPads and the like. Touch interfaces are quite different than Windows/Mac (Xerox really) interfaces. Are you really sure that this would be a help? Java is on their third or fourth GUI design. Their approach is to just throw them away. That of course is available in Ada; if anything, the problem is that there are too many GUIs (GTKAda, GWindows, Claw, and on and on...) which prevents any of them from being all that standard. And the work to define a standard GUI to the level required for the Ada standard would be immense, especially in order to prevent tying it to any underlying target. (We'd want it to work on both Windows and Linux for instance, without requiring either of them.) And I don't see anyone really stepping up to do that work. Randy.