From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,4ffc4a297a9f10e0 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.201.147.78.MISMATCH!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J-P. Rosen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Thoughts on AdaCore maintaining GCC-incompatible GNAT sources Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:11:52 +0100 Organization: Adalog Message-ID: References: <62c8c6c1-6578-4e61-b68a-2c192f34aa94@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <1456fbc5-f951-4721-8575-0b73a492f275@r29g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="cJo7kSTQUrCFv2/D8KKtqw"; logging-data="11282"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ybnWd+GuOa05wsVwI1Xt1" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:ubQ0u+zNxe4S+7UQ3iLXapj9GrI= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17571 Date: 2011-01-21T08:11:52+01:00 List-Id: Le 20/01/2011 19:46, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) a écrit : > If really clients are allowed to re-distribute, this is indeed > surprising, I could never believe this could be really possible: > users/clients allowed to redistribute and none doing so. May be they > feel that's better to not brake AdaCore business (I am talking about > earnings) so that they are assured of a regular and good job done at > maintaining the compiler ? (I would not expect it from the “crowd”, but > they must be some kind of special users I believe). Paying customers are typically big companies, and they are busy enough to not care. Anyway, they are not used to distributing /anything/ > That said, do you think they could be some provision for the suggestion > made, that is, some funding from GNAT GPL users to fix some bugs in the > compiler (I would be very happy to see the one about synchronized > interface fixed). Some room for a special contract ? Obviously, AdaCore > could not receive all individual request from each; but we could make > some collectively after some collegiate decisions. People have been telling this to AdaCore for years; they said they were not intersted. > P.S. This must not be easy for AdaCore too I believe (I see no way to > easily handle commercial + GPL). May be these FUD are the only way they > could figure to protect it… just hope these FUD are not too much > disturbing/nasty for their clients (ouch). > It's in part sin by omission. The license explains that, since Gnat is free software, the client is allowed to install the compiler on as many machines as they want /within the company/ (they get support only for the number of seats they paid for, though). The license forgets to tell that the same is true /outside the company/ ... -- --------------------------------------------------------- J-P. Rosen (rosen@adalog.fr) Adalog a déménagé / Adalog has moved: 2 rue du Docteur Lombard, 92441 Issy-les-Moulineaux CEDEX Tel: +33 1 45 29 21 52, Fax: +33 1 45 29 25 00