From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,cae92f92d6a1d4b1 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!gegeweb.org!news.ecp.fr!news.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada.Execution_Time Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:02:52 -0600 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Message-ID: References: <4d05e737$0$6980$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1wmsukf0wglz3$.odnzonrpayly.dlg@40tude.net> <6n1c5myuf2uz$.10jl3ln7il3aq.dlg@40tude.net> <8n0mgnFv2sU1@mid.individual.net> <1n3o55xjdjr9t.1u33kb75y2jfl$.dlg@40tude.net> <8n1142Fto2U1@mid.individual.net> <1o5cbm4b1l20d$.19winbma6k5qw.dlg@40tude.net> <8n4mskF7mmU1@mid.individual.net> <8nm30fF7r9U1@mid.individual.net> <1akm5muxu9zni.mu91b7pubqw0$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1293487374 18789 69.95.181.76 (27 Dec 2010 22:02:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:02:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17143 Date: 2010-12-27T16:02:52-06:00 List-Id: "Robert A Duff" wrote in message news:wcc39pj86y4.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com... > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > >> Nope, one of the killer arguments ARG people deploy to reject most >> reasonable AI's is: too difficult to implement on some obscure platform >> for >> which Ada never existed and never will. (:-)) > > The ARG and others have been guilty of that sort of argument in the > past, although I think "most reasonable AI's" is an exaggeration. > I think that line of reasoning is wrong -- I think it's just fine to have > things like Ada.Directories, even though many embedded systems don't > have directories. It means that there's some standardization across > systems that DO have directories. Those that don't can either > provide some minimal/useless implementation, or else appeal > to RM-1.1.3(6). They're supposed to provide a useless implementation that raises Use_Error for most of the operations. There are a pair of Notes to that effect (A.16(129-130)). I don't think features should ever be designed so that implementations have to appeal to 1.1.3(6) - my preference would be that that paragraph not exist with the language itself sufficiently flexible where it matters. (Otherwise, implementations could leave out anything that they want and appeal to 1.1.3(6). I think that both interfaces and coextensions are "impractical" to implement for the benefit gained, so does that mean I can ignore them and still have a complete Ada compiler??) Randy.