From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,899fc98b2883af4a X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-14 07:37:37 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc,comp.software-eng From: The Ghost In The Machine Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305011727.5eae0222@posting.google.com> <17cd177c.0305072114.24f04783@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305090612.261d5a5c@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305091549.48b9c5d9@posting.google.com> <7507f79d.0305121629.5b8b7369@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305130543.60381450@posting.google.com> <3EC10119.9050607@psu.edu> Followup-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy X-face: "i;@/WO(?;[KC9sW;wG/4@H[_VFFH4?QHJ#O(?m}7fQMrJ,]0THA'\|e-EPG_>56Mi}_RRhBS'a2}u_7jm)0_+'=$V#E2r4#IQE/d)yMv3_4@hl<)mA&*tDN/ User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:35:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.218.45 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1052922931 165.247.218.45 (Wed, 14 May 2003 07:35:31 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:35:31 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63770 comp.object:63374 comp.lang.ada:37323 misc.misc:14158 comp.software-eng:19178 Date: 2003-05-14T14:35:31+00:00 List-Id: In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Robert Spooner wrote on Tue, 13 May 2003 10:28:41 -0400 <3EC10119.9050607@psu.edu>: > Preben Randhol wrote: >> soft-eng wrote: >> >> >>>1) Hire good people, and give them the tools they >>>need. Many companies follow this approach, e.g. Microsoft. >>>(See http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000072.html ) >> >> >> LOL! Good quality? >> > > > Of course! Microsoft defines robust software as software with lots of > features. > Bob Evidently confusing "robust" with "bistro". :-) -- #191, ewill3@earthlink.net It's still legal to go .sigless.