"Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:3F836528.9020906@noplace.com... > I don't know what the APIWG is up to, but if the "API" part of their > name is any indication it would seem they're aiming at providing an > "API" - a package spec rather than a spec and body. In other words > "Every Man For Himself" which has historically been a) expensive and b) > not entirely successful. > > Maybe they *do* want to provide a reference implementation. If so, I > could get on board with that. But I'd like to see some indication that > the vendors and/or the ARG has some intention of accepting and blessing > (and distributing) the net result. > > MDC I emailed a contact at the APIWG who also forwarded my email to select contacts of his through APIWG, WG9 and SIG Ada. Gotten 4 replies so far and expecting more on the way. Thus far, they seem to say that because the standarization process is one of concensus it's hard to make things happen faster they mentionned that to treat a library/amendment etc etc...as mature, they believe it should be running and proven stable in the course of 5 years after which it is deemed mature. Add to the the initial 5 years for a standard revision (as any standard based on consensus) and there's your 10 years turnover. They are not against a centralized API central (the APIWG would mostly take care of APIs however they showed interest in other types of libraries such as data structures, components and the like). They said that if APIWG won't do these other libraries that another working group would be able to accomodate these types of libraries/bindings. They are not against a sub standard repository either, in which changes could happen on a daily bases. As illustrated by some companies already performing this exercise and developing their own additions to the standard that they ship with their distributions. Additions, not changes to the standards :-). As quoted: "Standardization is an admittedly slow process, because it is fundamentally built on consensus. On the other hand, there is nothing precluding a group of users establishing their own reusable libraries, and making them widely available. De-facto standards are often just as good, or even better, than de-jure standards. " I'm no latin speaking individual and I'm curious to know the difference between De-Facto and De-Jure :-). although I have an idea based on the context if this quote hehe.. I dont know if I can get a written and signed blessing document (then again...ya never know :-) out of it. but so far as per the replies I've received it, they welcome the idea of a centralized sour of mature libraries and APIs. Most of those who replied mentionned it right in their emails. I'll keep you posted as I get more replies and ask all the questions I have on my mind. ANd now You're up to date. -- St�phane Richard "Ada World" Webmaster http://www.adaworld.com