From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6d79efdb8dde2c5a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J-P. Rosen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Categories for SPARK on Rosetta Code (Was: SPARK : third example for Roesetta - reviewers welcome) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:36:40 +0200 Organization: Adalog Message-ID: References: <589eea9a-0b14-4ae5-bf62-9abf4b33e7fb@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <82mxsnuhbq.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <4c69a251$0$2371$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> <4c69cd5f$0$2375$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> <1ddee5a6-fc25-4d23-bebd-3364923d0aa5@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <7cf71c68-4faf-4a7b-a350-405ff7f12ff9@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <4xb6sjkpzo1r$.138841gile5s0$.dlg@40tude.net> <87wrrnjf9f.fsf_-_@hugsarin.sparre-andersen.dk> <3ed38f7f-372d-422e-9bda-eca8a73d3f0d@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <1ncf62lqqj7ab$.1czxyaw96dl17.dlg@40tude.net> <1y0wcz3etd5au.1kgyc5ls0w5kk$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx03.eternal-september.org; posting-host="Dn22F68J9CHYFQQlT81DGA"; logging-data="13444"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/v0T71RCDF1E4jeUBp7/k3" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 In-Reply-To: <1y0wcz3etd5au.1kgyc5ls0w5kk$.dlg@40tude.net> Cancel-Lock: sha1:OYPPYnvr4cHdUCkQnTsSXT9j9Xs= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13536 Date: 2010-08-20T13:36:40+02:00 List-Id: Le 20/08/2010 12:24, Dmitry A. Kazakov a �crit : > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:55:43 +0200, J-P. Rosen wrote: > >> Le 20/08/2010 11:23, Dmitry A. Kazakov a �crit : >>>> What about "supports formal analysis" ? >>> >>> That provokes the question - analysis of what? >>> >> Of the code, for sure ;-) > > Doesn't C has code? Sure, it's even close to machine code ;-) > Can't it be analyzed formally? No. As soon as you have address arithmetic, no semantic can be guaranteed. Well, it depends on what you call "formally" TBH. [...] >> The important parts here is "supports" (as opposed to "allows"), i.e. >> the language includes features intended only for formal analysis, >> without any effect on the generated code. >> >> I guess Eiffel would qualify too. > > Only because the keyword "static" was lost. Dynamic formal analysis is > certainly possible and useful too, but it relates to the language in the > same way morbid anatomy does to therapy. > > BTW, "without any effect on the generated code" would disqualify Eiffel > anyway. > I thought about that after I sent the message. I really meant "without any semantic effect on the generated code (in the absence of violations)" -- --------------------------------------------------------- J-P. Rosen (rosen@adalog.fr) Visit Adalog's web site at http://www.adalog.fr