From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,751d508677a5add1 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news-out2.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!xindi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!news.ett.com.ua!not-for-mail From: anon@att.net Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ADA made me hate programming Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Organization: ETT newsserver Message-ID: References: <8f469661-370c-4484-82d8-f1b365455e0f@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <7865d$4c3125c1$433a4efa$24658@API-DIGITAL.COM> Reply-To: anon@anon.org NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-4.225.169.186.dial1.dallas1.level3.net X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.ett.com.ua X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.6.1 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:13158 Date: 2010-07-05T10:49:46+00:00 List-Id: In <7865d$4c3125c1$433a4efa$24658@API-DIGITAL.COM>, "Marc A. Criley" writes: >On 07/04/2010 06:22 PM, anon@att.net wrote: >> In, "Marc A. Criley" writes: >>> By whom? When? What was the nature of the "hack"? Was it done in a >>> government defense lab to assess vulnerability? Did it happen on a >>> battlefield somewhere? Cite a trustworthy source of such a "report". >> >> I do not remember who said but it under the Bush jr. administration >> and they said that the missile were hack. This was reported at the >> end of Bush jr first term. > >"I do not remember who said..." > >"they said..." > >"This was reported..." > >Pffffft. Silly anon. I make a simple request: > > >>Cite a trustworthy source of such a "report". FOX/CBS/ABC/NBC "AP wire" -- should I go on. They reported that the gov't verified that the missiles were hack. Not sure if CNN cover the story. Watching the news is how I found out about it. > >> Also, if a person works in the R&D for a missile, you know the paper >> work a person signs keeps that person from giving too many details, >> unless they would like to be charge with Treason. > >It's not limited to R&D. And it's not the paperwork that a person signs, >it's the security clearance they possess that protects such information. > And while violating one's clearance would subject them to potentially >serious penalties, the nature of the violation would have to be quite >egregious to rise to the level of Treason. > Anytime US is at war, include the ones the we are in today, the charge is more likely to be Treason than any other charge. Of course, that before our current pres and AG. No telling what could happen! I say that because it anyone guess what will happen if those new spys are found guilt. Back in the cold war days it was a charge of Treason and Death when they were found guilty! If you remember you history, there was a couple who were charged with Treason and paid with their lives. >>> Any "outdated system" that works is better than one that exists only as >>> a proposal or in theory. >> >> Yes, outdated. The gov't wants their young fighter who are great at >> video-game war to use be remote controlled missile. A few can act >> like 100s of fighters, but that has been hack. So, the gov't now into >> pattern recognition, where a missile is given a set of pictures, etc. and >> let that puppy go hunting. The system would pick the first, if >> possible do it job, if not goes find the second on the list, and >> so on through the list until the job is done or the list is empty or its >> out of range then it self-destruct to keep the technology from the wrong >> hands. > >(I know I'm playing a fool's game, but it's a holiday weekend so I >figure 'what the hell?' :-) > >You are so phenomenally ignorant of missile technology that it's >laughable. Actually, it's not the ignorance that's laughable, it's your >pretentiousness in supposing yourself in any way knowledgeable enough in >this area to go into a public forum--albeit using your silly >pseudonym--and declaim upon matters of which every word demonstrates >your ignorance. > The robot control drones, the ACLU and others has been trying to stop the gov't from using them. Reference: News On pattern recognition its not silly, just have some inside universities info, that may not be a part of the military info loop yet! It is hard to believe that people in the in the military or other subcontractors do not know since a number of universities like Berkley and MIT with others have been working since the mid 1990s on missile guidance system that use pattern recognition hardware/software. All under the eye of the DoD. I prefer other high tech systems. and some of those tech version might be against the Geneva Conventions, but like they say "War is ...". And since terrorist do not follow the Geneva Convention, why should be in dealing with them. And what I like is under some of those other systems no one get hurt not even a passer by, that is until after the trial then that another issue.. Just a totally clean and may be a very short war. And Ada is prefect for a number of these high tech systems. >I give you points for chutzpah, not many are willing to publicly >proclaim their ignorance with such verve and vigor! > >Marc A. Criley