From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,11414a19b0e4a97a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.16.109 Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!nospam.fr.eu.org!usenet-fr.net!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!news.tornevall.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:38:53 -0700 Organization: TornevallNET - http://news.tornevall.net Message-ID: References: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> <6a91b770-a1e5-48bf-bd16-4e451f862b8c@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <4c21ed56$0$6777$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: b3aabe829b1220749705ac3c2c1c272a Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: bc44296acae449de8a73ab729acf7d3d X-Complaints-To: abuse@tornevall.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) X-Complaints-Language: Spoken language is english or swedish - NOT ITALIAN, FRENCH, GERMAN OR ANY OTHER LANGUAGE! In-Reply-To: <4c21ed56$0$6777$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> X-Validate-Post: http://news.tornevall.net/validate.php?trace=bc44296acae449de8a73ab729acf7d3d X-SpeedUI: 1738 X-Complaints-Italiano: Non abbiamo padronanza della lingua italiana - se mandate una email scrivete solo in Inglese, grazie X-Posting-User: 0243687135df8c4b260dd4a9a93c79bd Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12869 Date: 2010-06-23T11:38:53-07:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > > A frequent argument brought forth by practical programmers > is that you know how to diligently use {}. Experienced > programmers don't have trouble with brackets (at least not > in tie sizing discussions). Bracket problem avoidance > techniques are easy to learn, hence everyone can demonstrate > their competence proudly and with an air of knowledge. > There are more important problems in life than brackets. > How often do they create trouble? Why do you employ programmers > who cannot properly use brackets? Etc. And the answer is the same as to similar arguments about buffer overflows, integer overflows, "=" instead of "==", and so on: In practice, they occur commonly, even though they are well known and no one wants to be the next person to create the next instance. -- Jeff Carter "C's solution to this [variable-sized array parameters] has real problems, and people who are complaining about safety definitely have a point." Dennis Ritchie 25