From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,11414a19b0e4a97a X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!fu-berlin.de!news.musoftware.de!wum.musoftware.de!news.tornevall.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:24:59 -0700 Organization: TornevallNET - http://news.tornevall.net Message-ID: References: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: b4e8721f068c7d03ca8d9275db42f2b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: c3c6936de02b8a1cc9a0113f400e5f9f X-Complaints-To: abuse@tornevall.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) X-Complaints-Language: Spoken language is english or swedish - NOT ITALIAN, FRENCH, GERMAN OR ANY OTHER LANGUAGE! In-Reply-To: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> X-Validate-Post: http://news.tornevall.net/validate.php?trace=c3c6936de02b8a1cc9a0113f400e5f9f X-SpeedUI: 1738 X-Complaints-Italiano: Non abbiamo padronanza della lingua italiana - se mandate una email scrivete solo in Inglese, grazie X-Posting-User: 0243687135df8c4b260dd4a9a93c79bd Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11829 Date: 2010-06-19T23:24:59-07:00 List-Id: usenet@scriptoriumdesigns.com wrote: > > So, what points would you emphasize to each (manager, programmers) to > make the Ada sale? I've read a lot of the advocacy and I think I have > a fair handle on it, but I'd still like other viewpoints, and perhaps > even examples of such a successful switch. I think there is no way to sell Ada to developers. Ada is a SW-engineering language; coders don't like it. In my experience, 98% of developers are coders. SW engineers generally like Ada once they become aware of it. So if your people are SW engineers, Ada will sell itself; if they're coders, there's no way to sell it to them. Proposing a switch to Ada may however, be a mechanism to tell which of your people are coders and which are SW engineers. That may be useful in deciding whom to retain and whom to let go. -- Jeff Carter "Perfidious English mouse-dropping hoarders." Monty Python & the Holy Grail 10