From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,11414a19b0e4a97a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.mixmin.net!news.tornevall.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:17:49 -0700 Organization: TornevallNET - http://news.tornevall.net Message-ID: References: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bf68b3882278be18c0c3877e92b479aa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 7f58390734be5ad3e092d1410d5f4f69 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tornevall.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) X-Complaints-Language: Spoken language is english or swedish - NOT ITALIAN, FRENCH, GERMAN OR ANY OTHER LANGUAGE! In-Reply-To: <101bf8f3-b823-45ee-9afd-40cbafb4b7a9@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com> X-Validate-Post: http://news.tornevall.net/validate.php?trace=7f58390734be5ad3e092d1410d5f4f69 X-SpeedUI: 1738 X-Complaints-Italiano: Non abbiamo padronanza della lingua italiana - se mandate una email scrivete solo in Inglese, grazie X-Posting-User: 0243687135df8c4b260dd4a9a93c79bd Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12799 Date: 2010-06-19T23:17:49-07:00 List-Id: usenet@scriptoriumdesigns.com wrote: > > In the end, it seems, it all comes down to money. Money saved in > greater productivity and less debugging, money saved in lower > liability and maintenance, money gained from satisfied customers who > get a robust product, and maybe even money saved in having programmers > who have a more powerful and safer tool at their disposal. Where we have hard data, they show that Ada reaches deployment at half the cost of C, with a quarter as many post-deployment errors which cost a tenth as much to fix (factor of 40 reduction in post-deployment error fix cost). The hard data include the Rational assessment for compiler development: http://adaic.org/whyada/ada-vs-c/cada_art.html and a study by Pratt and Whitney reported here on jet-engine control SW (I'm not aware of any link to this). There's also McCormick's academic results, in which no students familiar with C were able to complete a real-time project in C controlling a model railway, even when given 60% of the solution, while 75% of students familiar with C but not Ada were able to complete the same project in Ada when given < 20%: http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/2000/08/mccormick.html http://adaic.org/whyada/ada-vs-c.html is a good overall reference. -- Jeff Carter "Perfidious English mouse-dropping hoarders." Monty Python & the Holy Grail 10