From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6609c40f81b32989 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,9bdec20bcc7f3687 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 101deb,e67cdb1dcad3c668 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,gid8d3408f8c3,gidbda4de328f,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 From: "J. Clarke" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.pl1 Subject: Re: Why is Ada considered "too specialized" for scientific use Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:17:26 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Message-ID: References: <4bba8bf1$0$56418$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bbb2246$8$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4bbb5386$0$56422$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bbdf5c6$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4c0a2e36$0$34205$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4c0b234f$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pe62b8e31a5f7968d13953bb4c88e8749a2e6ca82ff5249b5.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Hamster-Pg/1.13 In-Reply-To: Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12344 comp.lang.fortran:26395 comp.lang.pl1:1494 Date: 2010-06-06T15:17:26-04:00 List-Id: On 6/6/2010 1:10 PM, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote: > In comp.lang.fortran Arthur Evans Jr wrote: >> In article<4c0b234f$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: > >>> The last time you cited something that you claimed to have >>> been written in machine language it turned out to have been >>> written in assembler. > >> As one who was writing programs in 1957, I can assure you that the two >> terms were then used interchangeably. > > Unless you are actually doing it. There are stories from the early > days of S/360 about patching object decks by adding cards. > As each card has a starting address and length, you could easily > patch a few bytes by punching a new card with the appropriate > bytes and adding it later in the object deck. In that case, > one might actually try to keep the distinction. > > Otherwise, I agree. The main distinction for me was that dumps don't come out in assembler. But I never thought of machine code and assembler being distinct as a result--just two ways to write the same thing.