From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,c6f93635e0066072 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.201.147.79.MISMATCH!transit4.hitnews.eu!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BrianG Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: InformationWeek Gives Ada Black Eye Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:34:16 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="yhQWPMeVRpVpuDNdNP0zCg"; logging-data="3410"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+l7xT0DP/gN4PIbCTLabXI" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:eL90mL1Sbnscor2CmMbTA4TtJGY= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11246 Date: 2010-04-28T21:34:16-04:00 List-Id: Warren wrote: > http://www.informationweek.com/news/development/tools/showArticle.jhtml? > articleID=224202322 > > ( http://tinyurl.com/y3bv647 ) > > An IDE With Lots To Like > By Jonathan Erickson > InformationWeek > April 10, 2010 12:00 PM (From the April 12, 2010 issue) > > "... > All this feature richness is great, but at some point it runs the risk of > feature bloat, bogging down resources and performance in the process. > Remember the Ada programming language? Oft described as having everything > including the kitchen sink, Ada was ahead of its time with object- > oriented and other capabilities. But its plethora of features was more > than most developers could handle, and it never went mainstream. That's > something the Visual Studio team should keep in mind." > > When I think of "bloat", I think of PL/I. But I've used various > PL/I subsets and rather enjoyed using them in their day. > > I particularly wonder about his statement "Oft described as having > everything including the kitchen sink". I've heard the language > described as "large" compiler wise (at least for the '80s), > but I don't think I ever heard the "kitchen sink" analogy. That > would imply luxurious or unnecessary features, which if he > understood Ada, should know better. > > Warren I think he's confusing early opinions of Ada with early opinions of Java. I believe many believed that sort of thing when they first saw Java (and there were cases supporting it). Not that I'm knocking Java :-) --Brian