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On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:20:32 -0400, "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz"
<spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:

>>Does it really make sense to make your code as
>>newbie-ish as possible for them? 
>
>Why are you equating "readable" with "newbie"? I've been at this for
>decades, and in my experience one of the signs of a newbie is that he
>doesn't understand the importance of readable and maintainable code.
>Please note that neither "terse" nor "verbose" will satisfy the
>requirement; it has to be readable.

Because we've been talking about hiring newbie programmers in this thread.