From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6609c40f81b32989 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,9bdec20bcc7f3687 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,gid8d3408f8c3,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 From: "J. Clarke" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Why is Ada considered "too specialized" for scientific use Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:41:10 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Message-ID: References: <4bb9c72c$0$6990$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4bbb3f22$0$7660$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <4bbba9b4$0$6987$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p4be73115260a713b4ad54d702b823207af46b3d8f498d047.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 Hamster-Pg/1.13 In-Reply-To: Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:10888 comp.lang.fortran:24540 Date: 2010-04-07T15:41:10-04:00 List-Id: On 4/7/2010 1:05 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > "J. Clarke" writes: > [...] >> Well Visual C++ 2008, which is the only "MS C" in current production, >> most assuredly DOES implement a standards-compliant complex data type, >> so I don't really understand the point of your complaint. > > This is off-topic, but ... > > I'm sure the C++ compiler implements C++'s complex type. Does it > support C99 complex types when invoked as a C compiler? They're > defined quite differently; they have to be, since standard C doesn't > have operator overloading. > > Here's a test case, a complete translation unit that should compile > without error with a conforming C99 compiler: > > double _Complex new; > > C and C++ are two different languages. Precisely. And Microsoft is not touting any of their current projects as a C compiler so why should they support C99? Look, you have a choice, you can use C or you can use Microsoft compilers, but if you're expecting state of the art C from Microsoft you've come to the wrong shop. I just don't understand what's so great about C that one MUST use it in preference to C++.