From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-22 00:35:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-meneldur.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:49:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-meneldur.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.119) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1082619335 9584116 I 212.79.194.119 ([77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7401 Date: 2004-04-22T09:49:13+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:30:23 +0100, Marius Amado Alves wrote: >Of course the all 'virtual' control system would include reliability features. It is not required by law, so it will not happen. >Cannot be just a laptop sending emails to the breaks. There are lots of >feasible ways to attain a reliable system. Yes >SPARK comes to mind. I have talks with some people in charge. Those (overwhelming minority) who knows, are against Ada. (To be honest, they are also against C++.) The majority is against any kind static analysis. >For the >energy an array of redundant small batteries with capacity for say 1 minute >upon failure of one of them or of the big one(s). The time enough to stop the >car. Everything else would be redundant too. Etc. Mechanical systems fail >too. And these are more hard to make redundant. Well, just my expectations of >where the car industry should be now, or at least driving at. My impression is that the reality is. Each penny to spare will be. The least important issue is considered to be software. Software is already used and will continue to be for patching hardware problems. Legally, if you make a crash due to software malfunction, it will be technically almost impossible to prove that in court. So you will be responsible. -- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de