From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f891f,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gidf891f,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,6f568a2e6507575 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-04-28 14:39:14 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news6-win.server.ntlworld.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "chris.danx" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.misc References: Subject: Re: Thoughts and Opinions or something like that X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:34:38 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.104.126.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news6-win.server.ntlworld.com 988493645 213.104.126.131 (Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:34:05 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:34:05 BST Organization: ntlworld News Service Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:7027 comp.lang.functional:5375 comp.lang.misc:1189 Date: 2001-04-28T22:34:38+01:00 List-Id: "Gregory Toomey" wrote in message news:cPoG6.12897$482.65420@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > I can't see where all the 'virtual machine' stuff is going. > I think that's the point. > CPU instructions are just virtual machines for the underlying microcode, > which are a virtual machine for some underlying gate logic, > which is a virtual machine for solid state physics, > which is a vittual machine for quantum machanics ... > only if you consider physics reality, and not a model for explaining reality. This is a distinction people often forget. Physics is the study of natural phenomena, by which we develop explanations for events around us according to what we percieve. It may explain parts of our reality but... /end of blether > Java has a virtual machine (listed below), compliled Prolog has the Warran > Abstract Machine, etc. The VAX (CISC) instruction set even has polynomial > instructions. > VAX bit the dust a while back didn't it. "The ultimate CISC machine!" was how i once heard it described. Shame... > But I just can't see this is leading anywhere. > > > gtoomey > -------- > "brian hiles" wrote in message > news:teje2rsjqeak2e@corp.supernews.com... > > In comp.lang.misc chris.danx wrote: > > > Someone on these news groups suggested to someone that in order to make > a > > > reliable Virtual Machines, they needed the opinions of many > programmers... > > > > By VM do you mean the _Java_ virtual machine, bu which many language > > authors are writing languages to produce jvm bytecodes, or _another_ > > VM for in which case it seems you are "reinventing the wheel"? > > > > For both cases, the best use of one's effort is the time spent reviewing > > the field for other programmers projects: > > > > http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/~tolk/vmlanguages.html > > > > A fascinating site! > > > > =Brian > >