From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx22.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Wessel Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada,comp.programming,comp.databases.xbase.fox,comp.lang.clipper Subject: Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers? Message-ID: References: User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:52:24 -0600 X-Received-Body-CRC: 139444355 X-Received-Bytes: 1333 X-Original-Bytes: 1069 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.c:204189 comp.lang.ada:49840 comp.programming:20465 comp.databases.xbase.fox:182 comp.lang.clipper:3100 Date: 2018-01-10T10:52:24-06:00 List-Id: On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 23:50:19 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: > >Is it possible? Any existing algorithms or published papers? If it's done in a deterministic fashion, then no, it won't be any more "truly" random than any other PRNG. If you have a source of non-deterministic input, there are certainly better ways to turn that into proper true random output ("whitening").