From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e29c511c2b08561c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn) Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Date: 1996/06/25 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 162164004 x-disclaimer: This is the author's opinion and not that of Raytheon Company. references: <9606212019.AA11075@eight-ball> x-authentication-warning: The author was not authenticated. content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Raytheon Electronic Systems mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-06-25T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: I guess I am not convinced that freeware, although certainly useful, is anything I would normally choose to bet my project on. Gnu C seems to be the sole exception. And, development of industrial-strength tool suites requires industrial-strength cashflow. In article <9606212019.AA11075@eight-ball>, Bob Crispen wrote: > Joe Gwinn sez: > > >For large-scale use, only a few vendors survive, and consolidations will > >likely continue. The Ada market is clearly shrinking. I submit the only > >metric that counts is aggregate revenue to the Ada compiler and tool > >vendors, as the rate of further development of Ada depends on the size of > >their food supply. I don't have the revenue figures, but I bet someone on > >this newsgroup does, and ask that the figures from 1983 to present be > >posted. > > I believe you're suggesting that we measure precisely the wrong thing. > The existence of gnat (and the phenomenally good performance of gnat > at this point in its history) has changed the marketplace. > > Today compiler vendors don't have to keep a huge staff of compiler > writers on the payroll. That means that they can focus almost all their > manpower on product differentiation (e.g., GUI builders, bindings, > support for niche platforms) and on product support. > > Thus, we could see fewer dollars changing hands, but still have a very > healthy Ada environment. > > Gnat has also spawned a small horde of hobbyists who'll never pay a > cent for their gnat compilers, but who may one day become a truly > significant force for Ada. Looking at the bucks ignores every single > one of these people. > > Gross revenues, like lines of source code, are easy to measure. But > that doesn't mean they're *worth* measuring. > > Bob.Crispen@boeing.com > Speaking for myself, not my company