From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,dab7d920e4340f12 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,dab7d920e4340f12 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,d730ea9d54f7e063 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public From: gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn) Subject: Re: C is 'better' than Ada because... Date: 1996/08/19 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 175124980 x-disclaimer: This is the author's opinion and not that of Raytheon Company. references: <31EA0B65.3EF8@wgs.estec.esa.nl> <31EF7E48.5ABE@lmtas.lmco.com> <4ss8ru$3d4@felix.seas.gwu.edu> <31F28DBD.2A1D@harris.com> <31f3c52e.238719470 <4tnoeh$qjr@maverick.tad.eds.com> <4uj42h$j06@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> <4um1l9$klq@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> <4utuag$ii9@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3214B870.19B@tandem.com> x-authentication-warning: The author was not authenticated. content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Raytheon Electronic Systems mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.cobol Date: 1996-08-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: I believe you. It sounds like you were there, and, as I said, I was playing with blocks then. Well, cars. I once read an article claiming that DoD-1 was the original name for what became COBOL, but had no direct evidence. Maybe, the "DoD-61" was clipped to "DoD-1" somewhere, and the mistake stuck. But, clearly, if COBOL was DoD-61, there must have been a DoD-1 before COBOL, so Ada cannot be the first to have been called DoD-1. Joe Gwinn In article <3214B870.19B@tandem.com>, Don Nelson wrote: > Joe Gwinn wrote: > > > > In article <4utuag$ii9@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Craig Franck > > wrote: > > > > > Norman Cohen's fine book on the Ada programing langauage states > > > that "In April 1975, the Higher Order Language Working Group > > > issued a set of sample requirements for DoD-1". I clearly > > ---> ^^^^^ > > > > If I recollect, "DoD-1" was the original name for COBOL, back when Grace > > Hopper was young, and I was playing with blocks. I guess this is the > > first example of Ada reuse. > > Actually, the first COBOL book published by the DOD was "Report to > Conference on Data Systems Languages Including Initial Specifications > for a Common Business Oriented Language (COBOL) for Programming > Electronic Digital Computers" in April of 1960. I am reading this > from the cover. As far as I recall, this was never called DoD-1. The > next one said about the same thing but "Initial" was "Revised". It > was published in June of 1961 (and cost the amazing sum of $1.25 - you > could purchase about three quarts of beer at my local saloon for that > in 1961). It came to be called DOD-61. I was playing with computers > then and Grace was in her 50s (which is young to me). > > -- > Don Nelson > COBOL Development, Tandem Computers, Inc. > Member, ANSI X3J4 and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 WG4 COBOL Committees > nelson_don@tandem.com > No clever quotes here