From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,976a050e0f89277c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: gwinn@ma.ultranet.com (Joe Gwinn) Subject: Re: Urgent question: malloc and ada...READ/NEW/FOLLOWUP Date: 1998/04/18 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 345447793 References: <352A79C2.15FB7483@nathan.gmd.de> <1998Apr10.073110.1@eisner> X-Ultra-Time: 18 Apr 1998 20:05:23 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@ultra.net Organization: Gwinn Instruments Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-04-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote: > Joe said > > < >> > > OK, so please list ONE specific case! We have lists. I'll see what I can publish when I return in a week. > We seem to get from you this general diatribe on how difficult things are, > but it seems hard to get a specific example. In my experience many of the > "problems" that people have are not language problems at all, but simply > cases of people not knowing the language well enough. Yes, these features > are quite tricky to learn, but if you want to be successful in using Ada 95 > for handling low level interfacing, then you have to learn and understand > the features in Ada 95 that accomplish this. Umm. Here we go again. No, not all developers have doctorates in anything, let alone computer science, but the problems of interfacing code written in different languages, or even same language but different compilers, have been with us for decades. This is an area where details are excruciatingly important. I am perplexed. Why do you think Ada, a capable but complex language, is any different? Why do you express surprise that people have problems here, and demand the evidence, as if to prepare for a federal court case? Also, I don't know that having the enitire list in detail would help people, because they will have a different combination of languages and compilers. What's more useful is the advice to focus on the interface details in your particular setup, because history has shown this area to be a rich source of trouble. > So, please give ONE example from your "lot of little things", we will settle > for not having the complete list if it is so long! I have to wonder if I will ever be able to provide enough details to satisfy you. Past history isn't encouraging. Joe Gwinn