From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ca0b11ae1c9a00cb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn) Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Date: 1998/02/17 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 326035707 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <34E7B551.115C289F@cs.utexas.edu> <34E8AA02.7ED447E0@cs.utexas.edu> <34E91572.CE9CEED2@cs.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Raytheon Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-02-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Yongxiang, In article <34E91572.CE9CEED2@cs.utexas.edu>, Yongxiang Gao wrote: > Now I've got 4 papers about the "complex" or "difficult" problems of Ada. It's > DONE! > > Here I don't mean you're wrong because the ideas are perhaps out-of-date. It would be useful if you could post the citations of the four papers you mention on this newsgroup. Some of us would like to read them, any you will probably also hear from the community on just what's wrong with those papers. As for the relative complexity of Ada83 as of ten years ago, the comparison of the day was C, and there was no doubt then that Ada83 compilers were a great deal more complex than C compilers. I became curious on the issue, and compared the DEC Ada compiler with the DEC "C" compiler on the VAXen here. The DEC Ada compiler executable image was about ten times larger than the DEC C compiler image. While size is not a direct measure of complexity, ten to one is still a significant difference. C++ is quite another matter, and I suspect that Ada95 and C++ compilers are of roughly equal complexity, and the languages are of roughly equal difficulty to learn and use. C++ does get more and better press. Joe Gwinn