From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,d87fe6752812f07a X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news2.arglkargh.de!nuzba.szn.dk!news.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT on WinXP: System.OS_Lib.Spawn raises Program_Error Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:40:38 -0500 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Message-ID: References: <50d832b4-140d-4029-8d7c-9397115160ba@u8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <923b28dd-46ee-40cb-b13e-5f8860405f22@r36g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> <02d45d5d-1543-4b65-90e0-b5b82eed048c@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1241566845 16590 69.95.181.76 (5 May 2009 23:40:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 23:40:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5698 Date: 2009-05-05T18:40:38-05:00 List-Id: Martin is correct, both are true. The JTC1 ballot closed in January 2007. But a standards aren't official until they're published, and that can take a while (for Corrigendum 1, it took nearly a year). In any case, if Anon had originally said January 2007, I wouldn't have said anything, but since he said January 2008 (which is off by a year using any rule), I felt I needed to correct it for future readers. Randy. "Martin" wrote in message news:02d45d5d-1543-4b65-90e0-b5b82eed048c@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... On May 5, 3:43 am, a...@anon.org (anon) wrote: > Actually, Adacore stated in March 2007, "Ada 2005, ISO/IEC 8652, was > formally formally approved by ISO SC22/WG9 on January 24, 2007". Also, "Actually" couldn't both be true? RB states that the standard was 'published' in March 2007, AdaCore stated 'agreed' in January 2007. The wheels of standardization grind slowly... > Adacore stated that they would be the first to use Ada 2005 spec in GNAT > Pro. But, other than may be GNAT PRO license users, the official Ada GPL > version using Ada 2005 specs was not generally available until May 4, > 2008. > Note: GNAT GPL 2007 (released in summer 2007) still defaulted to Ada 95 > specs. > > URL Ref. :http://www.adacore.com/2007/03/07/gnat-pro-601/ > http://libre.adacore.com -- 2007/2008 releases > > But even with a typo my comment is still valid, Adacore started to insert > Ada 2005 specs into its GPL version before January 24, 2007 and a lot of > programmers were using Ada 2005 features, before they were approved. And they were available on my webpage long before that (last updated 2004) but marked as for the forthcoming Ada0Y standard. But 'so what?' - anyone using them (either mine or AdaCore's) would be well aware they were on potentially non-portable ground. It's a decision for them, as to where that's a problem for them or not. For me, I wouldn't use them professionally on anything needing to be released but would consider them for 'utility' programs if they were going to save me time. Also, define "a lot of" - certainly not the vast majority of professional users, who will either a) not be using GNAT; or b) using a specific version defined by a project at conception and quite possibly never updated - that happens a lot. Cheers -- Martin