From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <20070123211651.c0d43695.tero.koskinen@iki.fi> <87zm89tpk7.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4q4pqgmdwo.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1169719988.972296.121430@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <4iauh.1157694$084.1040745@attbi_s22> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:35:04 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NcW7LQNT6l9lCY382JH0hbsb5Ms= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.215.112 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1169811024 88.72.215.112 (26 Jan 2007 12:30:24 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.germany.com!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8599 Date: 2007-01-26T12:35:04+01:00 List-Id: "Jeffrey R. Carter" writes: > Markus E Leypold wrote: >> Not to promote C, but purely from a logical perspective: The >> "continuing creation of buffer-overflow errors in C" only shows that >> there exist programmers/humans that don't always create safe programs >> in C. > > Don't you get logical on me here. I maintain that it is impossible for > humans to write safe C. For proof by blatant assertion, see my > previous post. :-) > >> I'd like just to point out that the world even in this respect is >> neither black and white (or at least you haven't demonstrated that >> convincingly yet), but more shades of gray. I concede the gray might >> be lighter in Ada sector and darker in the C sector, but I'd prefer >> quantitative arguments / reasoning in this world and some effort to >> estimate the difference between those shades over striking but >> logically flawed reasoning. I want absolutes I'll turn to religion. :-). > > All together now: Put your hands on the monitor. Say, "I believe in Ada!" Yeees, that's more like it. If we all do this and are pure of spirit (no C-thought!!) we'll overwhelm THEM with the pure power of our mind fields. I'm glad you take this with a bit of humor. But I would like to emphasize once again that -- not only in the game Ada vs. C, but most/every other programming language / development paradigm advocacy -- I'm missing hard data. (I say this again here, since a number of my posts from yesterday where I explained all that seem to have fallen into a black hole). Regards -- Markus