From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,442a61fa28886220 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-19 07:21:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030903 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada for a programming newb. References: <4zuab.5439$U6.3722@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> In-Reply-To: <4zuab.5439$U6.3722@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:25:27 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.98.236.164 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1063981260 81.98.236.164 (Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:21:00 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:21:00 BST Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42683 Date: 2003-09-19T15:25:27+01:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > What rubbish! "Programming-by-side-effect" has been the essence of > computing from the very beginning, from Turing machines to memory- > mapped video displays. FP is a completely alien concept, having no > intuitive correspondence to anything in the real world to make it > amenable to understanding. What rubbish! Computing started with maths and is a form of mathematics. A great deal of maths is side effect free. > When I go to the barber, the result is not a new copy of me with > shorter hair. It's the same old me witha side-effect applied. How do you know? > By the way, the first and second prize winners of the 2003 ICFP > contest used C++. The Judges' Prize winners used C++ and Dylan. And in previous years it was functional languages (Dylan is highly functional). That only shows some languages are better suited than others to certain problems.