From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-12 09:53:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone.bc.net!news.uunet.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org> <54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com> <406EB6D2.8030801@noplace.com> <87d66pyw1g.fsf@insalien.org> <406EEC35.7040109@noplace.com> <874qs0zvy1.fsf@insalien.org> <40714C98.90601@noplace.com> <1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com> <40729B9D.30906@noplace.com> <1076000ef5oj06f@corp.supernews.com> <0emdncWNfbOyUendRVn-gg@gbronline.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:38:38 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1081787916 198.96.223.163 (Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:38:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:38:36 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7010 Date: 2004-04-12T12:38:38-04:00 List-Id: chris wrote: > Wes Groleau wrote: > >> Pascal Obry wrote: >> >>> Now I agree that the Ada community is small, lot smaller than the >>> Python, Perl >>> or Java ones... So we just need to work harder :) And we have the >>> luck to have >>> Ada on our side with its great productivity ! >> >> Ah, but a language that is ten times more productive >> still can't compete with one that has a hundred times >> as many developers. Hiring may be an issue, but I think that point is overstated. I think a bigger issue in the General Purpose arena is that Ada so frequently needs bindings that are lacking. Like it or not, we basically live in a C/C++ world, and any time you have to stop and write bindings to it, you lose some of the productivity advantages. However, it still may be well worth it in the long run, if the binding SLOC is significantly less than the application code. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://ve3wwg.tk