From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e859f774bbb3dfb3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!not-for-mail From: "Colin Paul Gloster" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: another way to shoot yourself in the foot? Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:42:57 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <54157920-377a-441b-9b0b-f0c4f9ddffec@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> <54435596-5e7f-4686-a2b7-1e22d7c4b186@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> X-Trace: feeder.motzarella.org U2FsdGVkX1+8eZTYCSY/oxvigpfWLB1szdYLV6zMTtw9uNusx770tuPztNRWJ1+qZVL0SRZdGjkuzW9hoodlfEdDxqQrDqVMMaPe8+9OO8WZ+IXEjs03T7omJsYIYqcf5C4Xrat9nOem5J3otg3Ifw== X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19tKDMB+vDslCx6ctCNo2mCwQpXAU4acADpwLZcVj9nvIJ6WBjynLADmbRhvDOGWoM= Cancel-Lock: sha1:I/WeJ4mJvcceciGJB0GUmetSP4Q= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1023 Date: 2008-07-05T17:42:57+01:00 List-Id: Gary Scott wrote in message news:NPKbk.14568$N87.10457@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com ... |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Colin Paul Gloster wrote: | |[..] | |> and we have FORTRAN and C++ codebases which I should improve. How| |> better to start than by porting to Ada!? | | | |Or Fortran 95 or Fortran 2003 (ok, 2003 is nearly available) | | | |> Regards, | |> Colin Paul Gloster | |> | |> | | | | | |-- | | | |Gary Scott" | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Perhaps you would care to look again at my list posted on 16 Aug 2007 09:16:21 GMT in the thread "Interested about number crunching in Ada": |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"In news:ZlSwi.47515$xx1.37834@newsfe09.phx timestamped Wed, 15 Aug | |2007 23:43:02 -0700, "Nasser Abbasi" posted: | ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|| ||"[..] || || || ||I can understand one choosing Fortran over Ada, simply due to the inertia || ||that Fortran has in this domain, and the huge amount of existing Fortran || ||code out there." || ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|| | | |Unfortunately so, and a reason to be sceptical of supposedly | |scientific results obtained numerically. Of course, if someone can not | |program well in Fortran and tries to program in Ada, the results would | |still be subject to suspicion. | | | ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|| ||" But from a language point of view, I think Ada is definitely || ||better for numerical work than Fortran, but having a better language is not || ||enough in the real world. || || || ||Nasser" || ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|| | | |True again. Some examples from news:comp.lang.fortran from June 2007 | |and July 2007 of problems related to using Fortran... | |news:qLmdnRLQp_-G4_vbnZ2dnUVZ8qWhnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk | |; | |news:1183085026.130385.275600@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com | |; | |news:2007070314244816807-gsande@worldnetattnet | |; | |news:1i0o9u8.1enugm5jfa16aN%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:5evopfF38kh8jU1@mid.individual.net | |; | |news:5f8t9pF39qj8tU1@mid.individual.net | |; | |news:468eae65$0$63187$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org | |; | |news:1hzmym2.geqzg2np30c0N%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:1184354146.636131.244960@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com | |; | |news:1i13nsb.nie62b18grpq6N%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:1i0vm88.ad0dvommy5v1N%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:Tdmdnb8ULb0qehLbnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@comcast.com | |; | |news:yOUji.292583$p47.61895@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net | |; | |news:1i0w2b8.1yg3e511o0w59vN%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:46902291$1@news.meer.net | |; | |news:1i09cof.1u7n4sxq7c0cvN%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:f6strg$kbr$1@online.de | |; | |news:f6voik$tb$2@online.de | |; | |news:ldmdnbU9Iec5b-TbnZ2dnUVZ_oavnZ2d@comcast.com | |; | |news:1i01upq.bgpxxo1o0duerN%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:1182983727.411268.298580@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com | |; | |news:2007062720040816807-gsande@worldnetattnet | |; | |news:1i0dkkl.1jlhd8111v4wv8N%nospam@see.signature | |; | |news:94Dgi.9102$c06.8367@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net | |; | |news:M6Dgi.9103$c06.8464@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net | |; | |news:kNDgi.125855$Sa4.103793@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net | |; | |news:1182994059.370009.275990@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com | |; | |news:l0Egi.236875$p47.120808@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net | |; | |news:4683F0DF.2060806@cits1.stanford.edu | |; | |news:4683f755$0$63178$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org | |; | |news:w%Vgi.241677$p47.220353@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net | |; | |news:46845483.3060407@cits1.stanford.edu | |; | |news:ajZgi.4784$cV.208@trnddc04 | |; | |news:1182800003.825023.154970@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com | |. | | | |Regards, | |Colin Paul Gloster" | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Let us not forget that the standardization body took different directions in two of the latest attempts at an object-oriented Fortran (though something similar could be said for Ada). Regards, Colin Paul