From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-07 15:47:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!louie!not-for-mail Sender: - From: Bart.Vanhauwaert@nowhere.be Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional References: <9ka1jc$mgd@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3b690498.1111845720@news.worldonline.nl> <9kbu15$9bj@augusta.math.psu.edu> <9korp1$d72$1@nh.pace.co.uk> User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.17-21mdksecure (i686)) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:28:32 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.78.202.248 X-Trace: 997224427 reader0.news.skynet.be 54323 194.78.202.248 X-Complaints-To: abuse@skynet.be Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11545 comp.lang.c:72773 comp.lang.c++:80804 comp.lang.functional:7392 Date: 2001-08-08T00:28:32+02:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Without wanting to start another flame war.... That'll will be hard, given the Newsgroups: line this article carries, but anyway. > Could you elaborate on where you think that Ada doesn't cut it? I ask out of The simple fact that Ada is not supported by Microsoft makes it a second hand choice for most (if not all) desktop type applications. (I am not saying this is a good thing, this is just a fact and it is true for a great many more promising languages, like Java for example. This might even become true for C/C++ if C# really takes off and Microsoft itself isn't killed before that time frame) Granted, this says little or nothing about Ada as a language. But I think a balanced decision on which language to use on which platform needs to take the language platform (and support thereof) very serious. To say something positive of Ada : I am gratefull that it was apperantly a good testbed of generic programming. I think that paradigm is nearly as valuable as object oriented programming. > Otherwise, Ada is a general purpose language like C or C++ & I'm not sure > I'd agree that there is some problem space addressed by C or C++ that isn't > fit for Ada as well. That's why I'm curious about where you think it doesn't > fit well. I think Ada as a language certainly is a general purpose language and it can be used that way. Personally, my sole experience with Ada was through some ill-fated courses at university. I didn't like the verbosy style it seems to share with pascal/modula/cobol/... But that's just personal preference i guess. Some like it terse, others want programming languages to more closely approximate english sentences. cu bart -- http://www.irule.be/bvh/