From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,325c54deb91283fd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-26 15:41:24 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!leia!nobody From: Frode =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tenneb=F8?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Iraq Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 00:24:14 +0200 Organization: UNINETT Message-ID: References: <1051282861.155019@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <434D6BE07B88DDF3.14FA79DE87C7C338.160D352186C8E9CD@lp.airnews.net> <1051303356.875377@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <01154F787F4D5D36.6F3117386209D384.0ED05A89705A3094@lp.airnews.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: anne-bremnes.hiof.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: dolly.uninett.no 1051396884 20568 158.36.52.48 (26 Apr 2003 22:41:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@uninett.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:41:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36619 Date: 2003-04-27T00:24:14+02:00 List-Id: On Saturday 26 April 2003 08:48 John R. Strohm wrote: > There are three key components of project success: competent > management, > competent staff, and competent training. Unfortuantely, the abundance of the former nullify the other two. :( Generally speaking... ;-) > The brake subcontractor for the Boeing 777 did exactly that. They > started > behind the power curve, with no previous Ada experience. They were > already well underway with their C implementation, figuring Boeing > would give them a > waiver. Instead, Boeing explained to them that they would either do > the > project in Ada or Boeing would hire someone else who would. They came > in on schedule, under budget, and thoroughly convinced that they'd > been seriously wrong in their opposition to Ada. Actually, I find this extremely interesting. It means that "incompetent" programmers can actually produce better by switching from C to Ada (provided the verification of the subsystem was accepted). Hence you don't need "expert programmers" to produce qualtiy software, just the right tool. Has this been documented anywere? It seems to be a good success story. -Frode -- ^ Frode Tenneb� | email: frode@tennebo.com | Frode@IRC ^ | with Standard.Disclaimer; use Standard.Disclaimer; |