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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3?
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Andrea Taverna wrote:
> On 21 Lug, 14:25, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
>> I am very surprised at the list of languages you arrived at! FreePascal,
>> Eiffel and Modula-3 are all essentially dead.
> 
> I don't think so.

F# is still pretty obscure so look at this trend of FreePascal vs F# by
Google searches:

  http://www.google.com/trends?q=freepascal%2Cf%23

> FP seems to have a pretty alive community, GOBO 
> libraries seem to be actively updated. I can't confirm for M3, but its
> supporters seem to be "alive and kicking".

I was taught Modula-3 as an undergrad 13 years ago and have not seen it
since.

> Anyway, you're hitting me where it hurts.
> Perhaps I'm just clueless, or childish, but I just can't stand this
> situation. The more I learn, the more I feel that something went wrong
> in the "language war" in the '80, and this leaves a bad tastes in my
> mouth. It may be ridiculous since I was a child when that "war" took
> place.

Well, you do seem to be picking all of the languages that lost the war. ;-)

> Nevertheless, I  can't do anything but note that the languages above
> got something right that modern mainstream languages haven't yet.

Mainstream languages are for business apps and web programming so they do
not have the qualities that you are looking for.

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?u