From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e7ceb00d83425e3a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Mike Silva Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: rant (Re: Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal ) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 03:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <31a97103-1cbb-47b5-a93c-2a29c206556f@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <0d254195-50cb-4bad-b776-8d5c2ab09b6c@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.51.178.124 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1211021820 12053 127.0.0.1 (17 May 2008 10:57:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 10:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=71.51.178.124; posting-account=QgO_5wkAAACZKtAvkb3f1VNDm9C58qLr User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/419.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:153 Date: 2008-05-17T03:57:00-07:00 List-Id: On May 17, 2:30=A0am, "jhc0...@gmail.com" wrote: > On May 16, 5:28 am, Mike Silva wrote: > > > On May 16, 6:56 am, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > > > > An opinion piece from Joachim Sch=FCeth, the winner of the British > > > National Museum of Computing's Colossus Cipher Challenge. > > > >http://www.ddj.com/architect/207800151 > > > > -- > > > Ludovic Brenta. > > > Good stuff. =A0Another statement of what I have read here so often, that= > > Ada is very good at letting one model the problem space rather than > > having to work backwards from the solution space. > > > Mike > > People more familiar with language X than Y find that they spend less > time thinking about the language when programming in X rather than Y. But if anything the article suggests that, while more familiar with language X (16 years) than language Y (1/2 year), he spent less time thinking about the language when programming in _Y_ rather than _X_. I don't see how you can possibly come to the conclusion you state from the article. > > Right now, the article basically says: "Fortran had some cool features > C didn't have, but C had some features Fortran didn't have, and we > switched to C. But this guy uses Ada, because as we saw before, using > different languages is OK, and the safety community uses it. He solved > some discrete math problem he was trying to solve. He could have > solved it just as easily in any other language perhaps, but would we > write an article about it? The end". If he could have solved it just as easily in any other language, why would he write about being pleasantly surprised at the features in Ada that allowed him to write his software in two months even though he was only a novice in the language? There is just no way you can represent from the text of the article that the author's key point was "I could have solved this problem just as easily in any other language." Mike