From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Languages don't matter. A mathematical refutation Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 09:06:14 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: References: <87h9t95cly.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <04f0759d-0377-4408-a141-6ad178f055ed@googlegroups.com> <871tk1z62n.fsf@theworld.com> <87pp7kyh2r.fsf@theworld.com> <87lhi8ycj8.fsf@theworld.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: w2sqUGEBZqsVBYNL7Ky3Kg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:25414 Date: 2015-04-04T09:06:14+02:00 List-Id: On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 20:15:07 -0400, Bob Duff wrote: > Jeffrey Carter writes: > >> I can't accept as high level any language that requires, for a subprogram to be >> able to modify a parameter, that the parameter must be declared as a pointer and >> the caller must explicitly pass a pointer. FORTRAN, Pascal, and Ada, to name a >> few, don't. C does. > > I'd prefer you to say, "I don't like a language that requires [above stuff > about output parameters]." > What's it got to do with "levels"? It does. It breaks the abstraction of parameter passing. Thus C is lower level than Ada but still higher than Assembler. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de