From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,b6d862eabdeb1fc4 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!195.96.0.7.MISMATCH!newsfeed.utanet.at!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada noob here! Is Ada widely used? Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <7sxhe3ad80de$.5yvimcxk9vjb.dlg@40tude.net> <7ukoz32sn15r$.2j0eybb3m2s1.dlg@40tude.net> <1x2hj2y7tp481.8dt720yr4x2h$.dlg@40tude.net> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:22:52 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: 06 Jun 2010 19:22:51 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 63bb4400.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=GT^nPl[N?1a9kIfcjg:0fd4IUK On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:58:20 +0100, Simon Wright wrote: > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > >> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:22:41 +0100, Simon Wright wrote: >> >>> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: >>> >>>> 2. Your confidence describes you, it does not the program. It fact, it >>>> is like - I give my word, it works. Fine, but why anybody should trust >>>> my word? >>> >>> Because you are a gentleman? (sorry -- been re-watching Lost In Austen!) >> >> A measure of being gentleman? > > This was meant to be a joke, apologies. More-or-less in this sense: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman#Gentleman_by_conduct > >>> Because you have given your word in the past and it has proved >>> trustworthy? >> >> Proved how, means, measures? BTW, statistics isn't applicable here either. >> Let you write the same program 100 times. What is the probability that you >> won't make a mistake X? It is not a probability. The code deviation after >> stripping factors of learning, tiredness, disgust, rebellion is null. > > 'proved' might not have been the right word. I meant, if you are the > release manager for a project and receive an updated package from a > developer, you'll have a degree of trust in the suitability of the > update which depends on how reliable that developer has been in the > past. This all does not go beyond confidence factors (AKA truth values). There is no way to estimate a confidence factor otherwise than by an expert poll. The ways evidences are combined are quite ad-hoc. Now, how to translate this into decision making? Input: confidence 0.78 Output: the project will be completed in 2 months Input: confidence 0.78 Output: next engine maintenance is required after 462 flight hours -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de