From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,470860aa3e635a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!213.200.89.82.MISMATCH!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!news.addix.net!feed.news.schlund.de!schlund.de!news.online.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Bode Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT for MS Visual Studio Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:29:09 +0200 Organization: 1&1 Internet AG Message-ID: References: <13duou81kg3sd1c@corp.supernews.com> <13f3e0vbb05s47c@corp.supernews.com> <13f6eg0te46m2a3@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p57b635ca.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: online.de 1190708951 713 87.182.53.202 (25 Sep 2007 08:29:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@einsundeins.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:29:11 +0000 (UTC) X-message-flag: IMPORTANT MESSAGE -- PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!!! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII, .rtf, .ps, .pdf - *NO* MS Office files User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:2124 Date: 2007-09-25T10:29:09+02:00 List-Id: "Steve" writes: > It is "almost" what you get with GtkAda/Glade. Every time I have attempted > the combination it has ended in frustration. > > I am working in a Windows environment. > > Every time I have attempted to use Glade to set up a GUI it starts out > looking really impressive... better than some of the other GUI IDE's. > > But then I find that the tool that is supposed to allow me to make changes > to the GUI after the initial setup, doesn't work on Windows. Or I start > setting up windows, things start looking good, and then Glade crashes losing > all of my edits. I'm using Glade/GtkAda on Linux and Windows. I have had maybe a handfull of Glade crashes, not more than I have experienced with Visual C++. I have to admit that my copy of VC++ is 10 years old, so I hope they have heard of layout managers other than 'absolute position' by now, haven't they? I tried to install VC++ 2003 a month ago on Vista, but that did not work (installer told me VC++ is not compatible with Vista). At least my GtkAda app does work on Vista with only one annoyance: you have to either disable Aero or the WIMP engine to get menus working properly. BTW: I don't use Gate but libglade. The glade file for my app has about 21000 lines, loads in under 2s on my Thinkpad R51. > When I first tried using Glade on Windows the file dialogs were far from > standard for windows and very frustrating to work with. This is correct. I've written a wrapper (185 lines) around the file dialog that uses the GTK one on Linux and the Windows one on Windows. > I like Ada. I really do. But I would not recommend using Ada for a > developing a GUI to anyone. If it wasn't for the license I'd fail to see why developing GUIs for Windows + Linux with Ada was a problem. If you're developing GPL apps that doesn't bother you, but otherwise there are more affordable solutions. -- No intelligent man has any respect for an unjust law. He simply follows the eleventh commandment. -- R.A. Heinlein