From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,470860aa3e635a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.ecp.fr!news.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT for MS Visual Studio Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:46:18 -0500 Organization: Jacob's private Usenet server Message-ID: References: <13duou81kg3sd1c@corp.supernews.com> <13f3e0vbb05s47c@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: static-69-95-181-76.mad.choiceone.net X-Trace: jacob-sparre.dk 1190335404 9104 69.95.181.76 (21 Sep 2007 00:43:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:43:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:2058 Date: 2007-09-20T19:46:18-05:00 List-Id: "William J Thomas" wrote in message news:13f3e0vbb05s47c@corp.supernews.com... ... > No MS Visual Studio GUI building capability. > > Tell me is there some secret government agency out there preventing Ada from > having a good, reliable GUI builder on MS Windows? I doubt that, I think it is more that many of us can't figure out precisely what such a tool would offer over the tried-and-true command line tools. (Yes, I do the vast majority of my programming from an MS-DOS window using the same 1980s editor I've always used.) Sure, I can imagine some really neat features, but those would be impractical (lousy response time, unrealistic requirements, probably would need an incremental Ada compiler to implement them). We've seriously looked at this issue, and concluded that a decent programming environment would take more than 3 man-years to create: longer than implementing the majority of the Amendment changes to the language. And only a few people would want to use it (me, and possibly you, and I don't know of any others.), because they all want Visual Studio or Eclipse or something else that isn't designed to work with Ada. As such, there is no possibility of recouping the investment in time and money, so I think you'll be waiting essentially forever on that one. (We are working on a simple Windows programming environment, but it will not have anything fancy; it is aimed simply to make our compiler more usable to those who can't handle a command line. And the only reason we're doing that is that we can't update the one we have currently - no source code.) Randy.