From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fef3ad775ef4b0b7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!flpi089.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!cfe18fef!not-for-mail From: Gary Scott Organization: Home User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada for 1st year students References: <60e0c5f0-1e17-4add-b21e-b1ef622d5233@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <6gj2s5-0f9.ln1@newserver.thecreems.com> <543356bc-7862-45d2-9004-dfef69deab26@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> <802648fb-608e-42de-b94a-9dd39b1e2b21@l62g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <802648fb-608e-42de-b94a-9dd39b1e2b21@l62g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.94.37.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com 1223825483 ST000 68.94.37.188 (Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:31:23 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:31:23 EDT X-UserInfo1: Q[R_PJSCTS@]RV@[WBHB^WHAAJYFBL@MAHU^_BAMEH]TCDYG^WH[AKK[J\]^HVKHG^EWZHBLO^[\NH_AZFWGN^\DHNVMX_DHHX[FSQKBOTS@@BP^]C@RHS_AGDDC[AJM_T[GZNRNZAY]GNCPBDYKOLK^_CZFWPGHZIXW@C[AFKBBQS@E@DAZ]VDFUNTQQ]FN Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:31:07 -0500 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2347 Date: 2008-10-12T10:31:07-05:00 List-Id: amado.alves@gmail.com wrote: > I've slept on it and I'll retract from magic variables. Students will > declare the variables from day 1. Thanks for your warnings, they > confirm this. But please remind that my main focus is not teaching > Ada, but algorithms, and Ada is being use for implementing the > algorithms. I need a fragment of Ada that together with some packages > provide a non distracting environment, language, for the > implementation of the algorithms. Of course I'll teach Ada basics. > I'll teach packages. Packages are the heart of Ada, more than types. I > don't think I'll teach types much. I'll teach how to *use* types i.e. > how to declare variables. Thanks. For the stated purpose, Fortran 95/2003 would be just about perfect. It also has modules, and the syntax is generally more math-like and intuitive. -- Gary Scott mailto:garylscott@sbcglobal dot net Fortran Library: http://www.fortranlib.com Support the Original G95 Project: http://www.g95.org -OR- Support the GNU GFortran Project: http://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/index.html If you want to do the impossible, don't hire an expert because he knows it can't be done. -- Henry Ford