From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,86c750b8474bf6d5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: About String Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <484ABED3.8040909@obry.net> <484b802a$0$23844$4f793bc4@news.tdc.fi> <484cfb49$0$6601$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:25:02 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Jun 2008 12:25:02 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 47f1669b.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=L`P\J79gKH]5TOT9_N5i\BH3YRk65PXl=m9jSDNcfSJ;bb[UFCTGGVUmh?TLK[5LiR>kgR6lk?OO0lbOR X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:628 Date: 2008-06-09T12:25:02+02:00 List-Id: On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:43:36 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > Dmitry A. Kazakov schrieb: >> On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:19:11 -0400, Robert A Duff wrote: >> >>> Maciej Sobczak writes: >>> >>>> After all, with the possibility to initialize the new variable with >>>> arbitrarily complex expression (including function call), this is >>>> already the case and the whole declare-begin-end block is just >>>> reflecting some artificial separation. >>> I agree. I suppose it comes from Pascal, where declarations and >>> executable code are completely separated. It makes no sense in >>> Ada, where declarations are just as executable as statements. >> I disagree. I think it does make sense because it clearly defines the scope >> of the declared variable. > Still, a somewhat *new* kind kind of handling exceptions in single > declarations looks interesting? > Given linear order of elaboration in declarative parts, > and thus the possibility of sequencing initialization > of local variables: > > procedure P is > declare > X1: constant T; -- like Java final > begin > X1 := New_T(...); -- may raise CE > exception > when Constraint_Error => > X1 := Fallback_T; -- better than Java final > end; > X2: D := New_D(X1, ...); -- safely refer to X1 > begin > ... > end P; Huh, if you want closures, just say so. There is no need to break proven language concepts in order to have desired effect: procedure P is X1: constant T := -- Here anonymous function literal begins function return T is begin return New_T (...); -- may raise CE exception when Constraint_Error => return Fallback_T; -- better than Java final end; X2: D := New_D (X1, ...); -- safely refer to X1 begin ... end P; Note, no magic stuff, no exception handlers in declarations, just a simple thing, which Ada should have had from the day one: functional types and literals of. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de