From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.107.191.7 with SMTP id p7mr21656108iof.130.1512677729264; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 12:15:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.33.82 with SMTP id l18mr1176719otd.6.1512677728698; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 12:15:28 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.kjsl.com!usenet.stanford.edu!193no264275itr.0!news-out.google.com!b73ni522ita.0!nntp.google.com!i6no267615itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:15:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f23e3dc-6534-44c4-824a-b130869a21ab@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=155.148.6.150; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 155.148.6.150 References: <7b34a80f-00cf-406e-b99e-a8c8b8f4ad1f@googlegroups.com> <8cca1136-b15a-4528-82c5-3505e2416915@googlegroups.com> <1510416187.30535.107.camel@obry.net> <7c73f1a2-f680-4331-bd6f-ae0a55c267dc@googlegroups.com> <1f23e3dc-6534-44c4-824a-b130869a21ab@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why is ada better than forth haskell lisp swi prolog and pharo? From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:15:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:49408 Date: 2017-12-07T12:15:28-08:00 List-Id: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 12:53:16 PM UTC-7, polymorph self wrote: > On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 11:34:09 AM UTC-5, Ingo M. wrote: > > Am Samstag, 11. November 2017 17:03:10 UTC+1 schrieb Pascal Obry: > >=20 > > > I understand the ":)" but yet this is far from true. SPARK is built i= n > > > Ada, only a prover is in OCaml. > >=20 > > I did not mention the issue to mock Spark. Actually, I think Ada and Sp= ark belong to the best languages ever since Ada/Spark code is practical, we= ll readable, and very maintainable. I just want to point out that the requi= rement of OCaml could lead newcomers who are interested in Ada and Spark to= the impression that OCaml was chosen because Spark (which provides verific= ation as essential part of the language!) is not qualified to do OCaml's jo= b. >=20 > whats spark? SPARK is a subset of Ada along with proover-tools which allows formal verif= ication on your codebase for proving (eg) the absence of runtime errors or = proper data-flow. Here's a talk on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DplXboBx7LUs And another, which is *REALLY* good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DruuZ= VFbRlr4