From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:6283:: with SMTP id d125mr803089itc.14.1551300926636; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:55:26 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:33d7:: with SMTP id z206mr777683oiz.51.1551300926405; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:55:26 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.166.216.MISMATCH!y42no41688ita.0!news-out.google.com!v188ni11itb.0!nntp.google.com!y42no41687ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:55:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=165.225.72.126; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.225.72.126 References: <2199b15b-d704-403f-a6c4-00fab29792d5@googlegroups.com> <9fbf4856-af67-473d-8249-97488f542068@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada in command / control systems From: Maciej Sobczak Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:55:26 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:55709 Date: 2019-02-27T12:55:26-08:00 List-Id: > Which is not the case if you're developing automotve control software, > for example; it's not cheap to fix when you have hundreds of thousands > of examples out in the field. https://www.tesla.com/support/software-updates "Tesla cars regularly receive over-the-air software updates [...]" So why care about quality? If you have the comfort to fix everything later, then time to market wins over quality hands down. > I suppose we know how to estimate the costs to design the hardware > properly. Not sure that we even know how to design the software > properly, let alone how much it'll cost. Right. But why? In any case, this justifies my earlier statement: I do not consider engineers from other domains to be less competent than me. Actually, it's us who seem to be lacking skills to do our own homework. Right? -- Maciej Sobczak * http://www.inspirel.com