From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,bcdbb0729ae8fbff X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hibou57_=28Yannick_Duch=EAne=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Strange story with Ada validation Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:37:37 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <4683c5b7-29ef-4cac-a69b-e7d14a69f40d@j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.198.58.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1265679457 2715 127.0.0.1 (9 Feb 2010 01:37:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=77.198.58.172; posting-account=vrfdLAoAAAAauX_3XwyXEwXCWN3A1l8D User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; fr),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9012 Date: 2010-02-08T17:37:37-08:00 List-Id: On 9 f=E9v, 01:54, "Randy Brukardt" wrote: > The ARA took over responsiblity for validations (now called "conformity > assessment") following an ISO standardized process when AJPO was closed. > Seeh ttp://www.adaic.com/compilers/testing.htmlfor some information and > articles on the process. I had a look at AdaIC, but missed this one page. > But note that no one is formally doing these any > more; the major value of the process is the existence of the test suite a= nd > the fact that compilers follow it. Yes, I was indeed wondering about it. There was this article, and the words about required ACATS updates coming with some Ada 2005 Issues. This was looking strange to me : an article stating there was no validation next to Ada 95, and the ACATS seeming in very good health and applying to Ada 2005. > Since vendors all follow the ACATS > without formal testing, there hasn't been too much demand for the extra > costs involved with the formal testing. This can be pointed as a good point indeed. So this is mainly a matter of trust after all (if I've correctly understood every thing). By the way, as the ACATS tests suite is publicly available, any one can check a compiler him/her-self if he/she ever wanted to do so (while driving alone thousands of tests if probably not a kind of holiday time). I guess having a single and common instance taking over this responsibility, is mainly a matter of funding. Thanks for the lighting (to be honest, I was expecting a reply from you). Although informal, this is still there and in good place (I feel at rest now).