From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:f215:: with SMTP id q21mr1637723ioh.25.1551265486427; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 03:04:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:64c1:: with SMTP id n1mr1758958otl.187.1551265486179; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 03:04:46 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.166.215.MISMATCH!y22no78746ita.0!news-out.google.com!v188ni225itb.0!nntp.google.com!y22no78741ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 03:04:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=5.186.125.230; posting-account=evKiCQoAAAAlW4DRMPKd5GV_i1n41MVD NNTP-Posting-Host: 5.186.125.230 References: <2199b15b-d704-403f-a6c4-00fab29792d5@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada in command / control systems From: Jesper Quorning Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:04:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:55692 Date: 2019-02-27T03:04:45-08:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 10:28:18 AM UTC+1, Maciej Sobczak wrote: > Moreover, after spending some time in the mixed SW/HW environment, I woul= d never assume engineers from other domains to be less competent than softw= are engineers. On the contrary, I'm happy they they actually do not share o= ur anti-practices and general disregard to work rigor, of which I have seen= too much in software already. > Note also that software engineering world, especially in the industrial a= nd critical domains, is slowly (?) drifting towards model-based techniques.= Not only in some sense we are catching up with the culture that our collea= gues from other domains cultivated long before us, but it actually makes th= e advantages of Ada increasingly irrelevant. The choice will be no longer b= etween C and Ada, but rather between Python (or similar) and Simulink (or s= imilar - I'm referring to mindsets, not the actual products). Engineers are conservative and have other priorities than fast and fancy p= rograms. Personal and environmental conserns are very important.=20 Your cusotomer do not like at wind turbine to crash [2] or a power plant to= core dump [3]. Software engineering is a relative new engineering disipline. Civil enginee= ring has been around for thousands of years. When you build a bridge it has= to be standing at first try [4]. And yes; 1 MB is 1_000_000 Byte [1]. Jesper. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte [2]: https://youtu.be/wfzgIxMEo8g [3]: https://youtu.be/nemYBeT4aQY [4]: https://youtu.be/nFzu6CNtqec