From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,168309ad531202b6 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!j9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Britt Snodgrass Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNATBench : how can I install ? Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <1717f132-4cc1-43ec-89a8-69d40a12d65d@m24g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.175.225.24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1288965691 12490 127.0.0.1 (5 Nov 2010 14:01:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 14:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=205.175.225.24; posting-account=rdRzuwoAAAAyW3CSBhs_xgfCUJSc1aNt User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 secproxy04.rockwellcollins.com:8080 (IWSS) X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; MS-RTC LM 8; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; InfoPath.3),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15261 Date: 2010-11-05T07:01:31-07:00 List-Id: On Nov 4, 11:08 pm, Yannick Duch=EAne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:08:53 +0100, Britt Snodgrass > a =E9crit: > > > Forget Hibachi, its a (effectively) dead project. > > Some already told me the same here, but I could not get an idea without a > try. Hibachi is not so bad, it is lightweight and simple, which can be > good. And I don't like to say =93dead=94 for such a thing which was not > created on that purpose (some care for the authors too). This was still a > good and not-tiny job. Yes, it has some good qualities but I don't see the point of using it when GNAT is your compiler. GNATbench works much better with GNAT. Hibachi probably works better with an Aonix compiler. I actually used earlier versions of the Aonix ADT before it was released as Hibachi. The company I work for funded some of the initial Aonix ADT development because we needed an Ada plug-in for Eclipse and couldn't get AdaCore interested at the time (several years ago). I think that's the only reason Hibachi has some support for GNAT. We switched to GNATbench starting with version 2.1 and now use GNATbench 2.4. > > I may add I've checked it works fine with MinGW, but still requires a > minimal GPS in the path=85 to open the GPR file dialog box. I didn't think there was any remaining requirement to also have GPS installed but I haven't checked recently. I always keep the latest release of GPS installed as well. I use both GPS and GNATbench and like them both. They each have their strengths, and its very easy to switch between them, or even run them both at the same time since they can "share" a GPR file. > > > Version 2.5.0 of > > GNATbench (when released) will have a more standard "local update > > site" installation mechanism. > > Seems they may have reach this target while they may not tell it : there > is even no need to use the installer, I've played a bit to see how it > works. All you have to do (at least in Windows), is to unpack the > installer or the archive, move the =93plugins=94 and =93features=94 folde= rs in > your eclipse directory (nothing else at all), then launch Eclipse. Yes there are various ways to install it. I just described the standard way in my other post. > > All that means it is near to be possible to install it straight-away (it > just needs to get ride of the minimal external GPS it relies on, to be OK= ). > > What is this =93gnatbench.link=94 ? Mine is working without. I tried the > installation from place to place to see if this was still standalone=85 a= nd > it is. Eclipse can load plug-ins from various locations if it finds a link file containing the plug-in path. With the default installation method, GNATbench 2.4 (and earlier) will create the gnatbench.link in the Eclipse links folder if you install GNATbench in the GNAT directory. > > Compared to Hibachi, I could not strictly say one is better than the > other, this would be like comparing AdaGIDE and GPS (no way to compare, > the spirit and target are not the same). Both have their weakness (CDT o= n > the other hand is very good=85 now he know a possible reason why so much > people are sticked to C/C++/Java=85 the environment is very neat-good in > this area, and all seamless). > GNATbench is good and getting better with each release. It also has built-in support for running the SPARK tools (as does GPS). Hibachi is an open project and could be improved, but I don't see that anyone is working on it.