From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,5af5c381381ac5a7 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!h37g2000pra.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Adam Beneschan Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada requires too much typing! Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <4bfd19ba$0$2362$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.126.103.122 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1274887403 23658 127.0.0.1 (26 May 2010 15:23:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h37g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.126.103.122; posting-account=duW0ogkAAABjRdnxgLGXDfna0Gc6XqmQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12038 Date: 2010-05-26T08:23:23-07:00 List-Id: On May 26, 5:57=A0am, "Peter C. Chapin" wrote: > This is just an observation on the difference between two communities. > > I've been recently using Scala for a project (I'd rather use Ada, but it'= s > hard for me to justify the cost of converting... alas). Scala is a > functional/OO hybrid language that targets the JVM. It prides itself on, > among other things, its concise syntax. Not surprisingly the Scala commun= ity, > as evidenced by the posts on a Scala newsgroup, regard conciseness as an > important feature for a programming language. I agree that conciseness ca= n in > some cases improve readability. However, I also believe that it can obscu= re a > lot of important detail and make it hard to understand the execution cost= of > the code. Perhaps because of my experience with Ada, or perhaps because o= f my > basic personality, I'm not necessarily a fan of extreme conciseness. > > However, the argument that I see some people putting forth on the Scala g= roup > is that conciseness is good because it saves typing. I really can't > understand that. How hard is it to type? not hard 4 u obvsly but we dealng w generation hu thnks "lengthy essay" means sumth 2 long 2 fit in2 Twitter msg -- a