From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d5b211b0c1ffcf3e X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.223.40 with SMTP id qr8mr535733pbc.0.1339202564935; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Path: l9ni30848pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Adam Beneschan Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Practicalities of Ada for app development Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <79c5c9f7-4b72-4990-8961-b3e2db4db79b@qz1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.126.103.122 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1339202564 16784 127.0.0.1 (9 Jun 2012 00:42:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:42:44 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.126.103.122; posting-account=duW0ogkAAABjRdnxgLGXDfna0Gc6XqmQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-06-08T17:40:58-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, June 8, 2012 2:35:55 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote: > > 3. How about the quality and availablity of supporting tools like > > debuggers and profilers? >=20 > One nice thing about Ada is not needing to use a debugger. I don't get this comment. Ada is a lot nicer than some languages at preven= ting you from making certain kinds of mistakes, but no language is able to = prevent logic errors and certain dumb typos. And if you make this kind of = error and the program doesn't work, just the fact of its being written in A= da doesn't help you much. There may less need for a debugger because Ada w= ill prevent certain types of errors and things like constraint checks will = catch some others that would cause havoc in C. But it can't catch everythi= ng, and even if it does find an index that's out of range it won't tell you= why the index was out of range. I mean, Ada is a much better language tha= n certain others for writing correct code, but this seems like a gross over= statement. Or maybe I'm just being parochial here because I designed and wrote the Ada= debugger that comes with Irvine Compiler's product. And yes, I do use it = to help track down problems. (Including errors in the debugger itself.) -- Adam