From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b6df8f8501cf7275 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Received: by 10.180.78.36 with SMTP id y4mr9571165wiw.1.1356771357363; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:55:57 -0800 (PST) Path: i11ni329296wiw.0!nntp.google.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Easiest way to build Qt/Gtk interfaces for Ada programs Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:55:44 +0100 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: References: <1gda5kzj50h3l.jzmq13s0hw74.dlg@40tude.net> <50de4127$0$6567$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: cDN0fd8KlIeJLyErIrSf0A.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-12-29T09:55:44+01:00 List-Id: On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 02:02:33 +0100, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > On 29.12.12 01:27, Randy Brukardt wrote: >> It's certainly possible to create a GUI Builder that does most of the >> busy-work but still allows one to write the rest of a application. > > Perhaps it is an idea to be more specific about "GUI"? Sure. GUI consisting of a bunch of modal dialogs of fixed layout is casual now. Times you could sell that to the customer are eons ago. > For some, GUI means dialogs in windows, menus, text fields and various > buttons, maybe table views. For others, GUI means a responsive > drawing/symbol/model of something that is different in that it is > *not* controlled by text input, or via buttons, because it can't, really. Actually, a simple tree view is usually enough for the house of cards to collapse. But there is also another thing which makes a lot of trouble even with buttons and dialogs. That is "horizontal" interaction of GUI elements. Modern GUIs have multiple active elements visible. Nobody wants modal dialogs anymore. These elements influence, constrain, control each other outside the container-field relationship. This quickly breaks the classical hierarchical schema based on simple callbacks. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de