From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,fe82bd3a72926e1a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-16 07:23:11 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!NewsWatcher!user From: ev_remove_this_ans@evans.pgh.pa.us (Arthur Evans Jr) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:23:10 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <9q223u$lap2j$1@ID-77397.news.dfncis.de> <46vast4p1qnb0e8bt59v4e8616hacvcgtd@4ax.com> <3BC5C49F.B1386292@ao_spam_nix.de> X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.1 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14679 Date: 2001-10-16T10:23:10-04:00 List-Id: In article , Ray Blaak wrote: > This is quite possible, and I have encountered this before. On the other hand, > a group of people very often catches things the lone genious overlooked. You've picked up on what I see as the great strength of the Ada design process. Although the design itself was largely the work of a single immensely talented individual, Jean Ichbiah, there were (at least) two "committees" surrounding the design. Jean's Design Team in France included first rate people who influenced the design in many ways. They all contributed. And the Distinguished Reviewers carefully examined all aspects of the design and gave their feedback to the Design Team. Thus while the Ada design was controled by a single induvidual, he had the benefit of many talented people ofering analyses and opinions of the design at each step. Was Jean really in control? Surely! As someone reported earlier on this thread, he retained derived types in the face of an overwhelming vote of the DRs to delete that feature. And in hindsight I'm happy to say we were wrong and he was right. OTOH, there were many occasions when the DRs raised objections that Jean accepted, leading to redesign. In other words, he listened to us but didn't necessarily follow us. In the end, he decided. Although I was of course not privy to the inner workings of the Design Team, I have no doubt that the same kinds of interactions took place there, too. Art Evans