From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-meneldur.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 11:17:51 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-meneldur.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.119) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1083575011 18588169 I 212.79.194.119 ([77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:197 Date: 2004-05-03T11:17:51+02:00 List-Id: On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC), Georg Bauhaus wrote: >Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >: On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:47:13 +0400 (MSD), "Alexander E. Kopilovich" >: wrote: >: >:>Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >:> >:>But I'd like to note here that traditionally (until relatively recently) >:>science was about acquiring stable knowledge and understanding, and not about >:>redoing the world. >: >: That's not science yet. A true science begins when it gives birth to >: engineering. > >Work in the small, i.e. not oriented towards "the world", is complex >and full of imponderabilities. Science cannot even say exactly >how a windshield is affecting a car's route. Science, engineering, >all we can say is that it sometimes works! But we can build cars, so physics and chemistry are indeed sciences. >Humans give birth, not science and the wombs of ideas (including >engineering ideas) are certainly subject to factors other than >scientific ones, if known factors at all. > >And please no engineered history. Please let me die before this >is attempted again. The result of that experiment shown that Marxism is not a science. But if you think that this will stop humans from trying to engineer the society, then you are wrong. Be prepared to worse things. >And I don't take it for granted that medicine will be more successful >as soon as it is praticed by body engineers. Are body shamans any better? -- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de